Μάγκες για προσπαθήστε λίγο ακόμα γιατί δε βλέπω...να σας παίζει κανείς

Μάγκες για προσπαθήστε λίγο ακόμα γιατί δε βλέπω...να σας παίζει κανείς

Διαμαντιδης : 38 λεπτα και 32 δευτερολεπτα...Δωσε πονο Φραγκι..

όχι respect ... απλά συμπόνια !!

Respect στον Φραγκι ομως.Τον ξεκουρασε Ενα (1) ολοκληρο λεπτο και Εικοσι Οκτω (28) ολοκληρα δευτερολεπτα.

Και μετα απορουν μερικοι για την τελευταια φαση..Πως δεν επεσε σαν τον Ολαιταν κατω θαυμα ειναι.

http://www.gazzetta.gr/basketball/article/...sta-gkarnt-pics

Τα λεει ολα νομιζω.Μια ματια στους παικτες και στα νουμερα καταλαβαινει κανεις πολλα για το τοτε και το τωρα.

Δεν λέω ενδιαφέρουσα είναι η υπενθύμιση των συνθέσεων του backcourt του Παναθηναϊκού τα τελευταία δέκα χρόνια αλλά το μπακαλόχαρτο με φωτό και νούμερα που προσπαθεί να πασάρει σαν στατιστική ανάλυση με κάνει να απορώ αν είναι χομπίστες ή πληρώνονται για να γράφουν εκεί στο gazzetta.gr.

Για να εξηγήσει την κούραση του Διαμαντίδη χρησιμοποιεί τον μ.ο. πόντων της Euroleague (ο συνολικός αριθμός λεπτών σε όλες τις διοργανώσεις και το Usage % σε συνδυασμό με άλλα stats ανά κατοχή θα ήταν ελαφρώς χρησιμότερα), μετά παίκτες που ποτέ δεν αγωνίστηκαν στον ΠΑΟ ως guards τους συνυπολογίζει γιατί μάλλον έτσι θα τους είχε καταχωρημένους το site της διοργάνωσης και καταλήγει αθροίζοντας μέσους όρους ο θεούλης .

Αν δηλαδή ένας παίκτης έπαιζε για ένα μόνο ματς και σκόραρε 30 πόντους σε αυτό, θα έβγαζε μ.ο. σκοραρίσματος της γραμμής των guards 70 πόντους για εκείνη την σεζόν. Για την περυσινή σεζόν που βγάζει μάτι αυτό το πράγμα έβαλε και μια παρένθεση που λέει ότι δεν έπαιξαν όλοι μαζί. Έλεος ρε αδερφέ αν βαριέσαι τόσο πολύ άσε τα υπόλοιπα και κάνε μια ρημαδοδιαίρεση συνολικοί πόντοι του backcourt προς συνολικούς πόντους όλης της ομάδας και άσε τους μέσους όρους στην ησυχία τους.

Εντάξει δόλο δεν του καταλογίζω του ανθρώπου (δεν είχα ξανακούσει άλλωστε και ποτέ το όνομά του μέχρι χθες), προφανώς θέμα παντελούς έλλειψης βασικών γνώσεων μαθηματικών γυμνασίου είναι όπως λες ή τσαπατσουλιά που ποντάρει στην παντελή έλλειψη βασικών γνώσεων μαθηματικών γυμνασίου των αναγνωστών του (που αν κρίνω από τα σχόλια κάτω από το άρθρο μάλλον είναι χαλαρότατο safe bet ).

Τέσπα αφού ρε αδερφέ πας που πας να δηλώσει το προφανές (ότι ο Διαμαντίδης φέτος έχει λιγότερη βοήθεια από ποτέ από τα υπόλοιπα guards της ομάδας*) κάνε το αν όχι με έναν πιο ευφάνταστο τρόπο (για να αξίζει να το διαβάσει και κανείς), τουλάχιστον μαθηματικά ορθό (για να μην πονάνε και τα μυαλά μας).




*Που κι αυτό από μόνο του δεν επαρκεί, αφού και το 2007, με το σκεπτικό του αρθρογράφου, σχετικά "αβοήθητος" ήταν ο ΔΔ από τα υπόλοιπα guards, έλα όμως που τότε υπήρχε ο Siskauskas που δεν ήταν απλά "βοήθεια" σε σκοράρισμα και δημιουργία αλλά πυρηνικό οπλοστάσιο από μόνος του. Αλλά αφού δίπλα στο όνομα του Λιθουανού υπάρχει η καταχώρηση SF και δίπλα στο όνομα του Scepanovic η ένδειξη SG, τότε ο Μαυροβούνιος προσέφερε 9,6 μονάδες ενίσχυσης (και δύο φανταράκια στο Ιρκούτσκ) και ο Siska 0.

στατιστικα του θεου στην σειρα

12,6π 2,4ριμπ 5,6 ασ 1,4 κλεψ σε 33,2 λεπτα μ.ο

Ελπίζω του χρόνου να ακουστούν οι ευχές μας (και του ίδιου αν κρίνω απ' τις δηλώσεις) και να φέρουν κανά δυο νοματαίους δίπλα του να μπορούν να τον αποφορτίσουν ώστε να δούμε και του χρόνου παρόμοιες εμφανίσεις.

Ο Έλληνας γκαρντ, πήρε το μήνυμα της... πλάκας από το συμπαίκτη του και εμφανίστηκε από το... πουθενά την ώρα που ο Δημήτρης Διαμαντίδης πόζαρε με τη σύζυγο του, Βερίνα και ιδού το αποτέλεσμα!!

τι κανει εκει ο παππας ρε παιδια;; αφου ειχε τσακωθει με τον διαμαντιδη και ο διαμαντιδης ο γνωστος κλικαδορος(κατσουρανης του μπασκετ, κι ετσι) ειχε πει να μην παιζει. ναι μεχρι κι αυτο ειχαμε ακουσει φετος...

Τοϊνκ:! Το ακριβώς αντίθετο, ο Παππάς είναι ο προστατευόμενος του ΔΔ...

Euroleague Final Four preview: Greek PG Dimitris Diamantidis

by: Dimitris Ritsonis - Greek Correspondent

May 2, 2005

Six years ago, the National team of Greece was finished 16th, last in the Eurobasket (European Championships for national teams) competition, going home early with a taste of failure for everyone in the various Greek basketball family. The national sport of a country that was once dominating European hoops, was slapped so harshly during only one week and returned to where it used to belong decades agopoint zero. The European Champions of 1987 were doomed as "losers" in 1999.

Two months later, a 19-year old boy from the small city of Kastoria was introduced to the now substantially less popular Greek league, the A1. Dimitris Diamantidis, a tall point guard, with an interesting all-around game and some athletic abilities signed with the middle-tier A1 team Iraklis and began his fairy tale there.

Diamantidis needed a long time to make a name for himself in Greek basketball. In his first season, he needed to impove his body and settle down in the bigger city of Thessaloniki. He also started working on his game more regularly, with guys who were bigger and stronger than him. Playing more as the last player of the squad, he was only given limited minutes in just nine games, when he averaged 1.8 ppg and an interesting 1.9 rebounds.

It was more than clear that this player would never be an offensive superstar, but Diamantidis started slowly improving his game in a more all-around way than other players did. He was focused on the defensive end and was also improving his passing skills and team-oriented mentality. In the summer of 2000, he was invited in the U-21 National team of Greece for a series of games during July. He was slowly starting to acquire international experience.

Returning from these games, Diamantidis was given a chance as Iraklis' third point guard during the 2000-01 season, behind the recognized Russian PG Vassili Karassev and the youngster Haris Markopoulos. It is however important to explain that Iraklis was then trying to create a very strong two man punch, led by superstar shooting guard Nikos Hatzivretas and promising 20-year old center Lazaros Papadopoulos.

Diamantidis made some noise during that season, gaining playing time in the second round, even edging out Karassev as the PG with the most minutes during many of the last ten games. He had one 15-point game and a 10-rebound one. He finished the season, averaging 3.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.7 apg and a promising 0.8 spg. During the same summer, he played for the first time in the men's National Team, in a refreshed squad during the Mediterranean Games of 2001.

In 2001-02, Karassev was gone, but Iraklis couldn't trust Diamantidis with the starting PG spot. The American Roderick Blackney was given the starting job, but Diamantidis continued to earn more and more minutes with his play, providing the team with a hard-working all-around PG who was quickly included in a three-guard system. Missing starting center Papadopoulos, who had since transferred to Greek powerhouse Panathinaikos, the team became more of a perimeter-oriented one, accomplishing the best season of its recent history. Led by AI superstar and top scorer Hatzivretas and his heroics, the team seemed to be one a promising one over the years.

In a summer, full of changes in World Basketball, with the loss of the U.S. team to Argentina, Greece was absent from the World Championships that changed history and teams in A1 were struggling to gain any money from investments. The situation was more than tragic and when a player was given the opportunity to leave Greece for a recognized team from abroad, they never rejected it.

So, Hatzivretas, Iraklis' franchise player was gone that summer, going to Russian Powerhouse CSKA Moscow, while Diamantidis was becoming a regular in the problematic PG position in the National Team. He was backing up Theo Papaloukas.

In the meanwhile, Iraklis was having a terrible season financially and decided to build around the only starter returning for the 2002-03 season. Diamantidis, who had finished 9th in A1 in steals and 17th in assists, also finished the season with 6.2 ppg.

Playing for a team that hadn't even purchased a foreign player, Diamantidis immediately became the team's leader. While the team was originally projected to finish last in A1, Diamantidis progress was so immense and impressive, that it was actually a huge surprise they didn't make the playoffs. Diamantidis suddenly became a star in A1, leading the league in steals and finishing second in assists. He was among the MVP favorites, with the most impressive stat line ever seen in A1. 12.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 5.0 apg, 2.6 spg, 0.9 bpg.

Diamantidis returned from an important, yet not so successful summer from Sweden, where he was sharing time at PG in the National Team squad. He was by no means providing the National Team with the complete all-around presence that he was known for at Iraklis, though. He still had a lot to learn.

Returning from the 5th place finish in the 2003 Eurobasket, Diamantidis, now Iraklis' captain, found returnee Lazaros Papadopoulos, who had two not very successful years in Panathinaikos. Diamantidis and wing guard Savvas Iliadis helped Papadopoulos become a part of a three-player punch that pushed Iraklis to a memorable year. The team came one win shy from the A1 Finals and Diamantidis again led the A1 in steals and finished 2nd in assists and 11th in scoring, rebounding and blocks! His stats, once again miraculous: 14.8 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.0 apg, 2.2 spg and 0.8 bpg. Diamantidis was the unanimous MVP of A1, as well as the Defensive Player of the Year.

His summer with the National Team was once again not very good, as the player was overshadowed by Papaloukas' impressive tournament and Diamantidis lost the starting job for good.

However, his transfer to Panathinaikos, which once again demonstrated Iraklis' incapability of keeping its franchise players (Papadopoulos also left for Dinamo Moscow), gave Diamantidis the chance to play for one of Europe's best teams and start competing for more playing time and shots again, in a team that includes stars Jaka Lakovic, Vlado Scepanovic and also his old teammate in Iraklis Hatzivretas.

Diamantidis is now taking fewer shots than he used to take in Iraklis three years ago. However, a strong and steady top-16 round in Euroleague, along with a nice teaming with fellow guard Lakovic, have helped him establish a strong reputation in European basketball. Four days ago, he was voted the "Defensive Player of the Year" in the Euroleague and this Friday, he will appear for the first time in his career in a Euroleague Final Four.

Only weeks from his 25th birthday, he has now completed an extremely unique and unselfish basketball game. He is strong, quick and competitive. He is probably the best player in Europe, concerning his ability to guard space, as he has excellent timing in blocking, he is a very efficient rebounder, a fine passer and a guy whose slashing abilities allow zero flaws.

His main drawback is his mid and long-range shot. Despite his improvement in that field under legendary coach Zeliko Obradovic (he shot 17/37 from outside in 23 Euroleague games this season), he still has a lot of room to improve. As for the concerns on his inability to play well for the National Team, they will probably disappear this year, after the Eurobasket in Serbia. Diamantidis will be one of a handful of players that will be tracked closely by NBA scouts in the Euroleague Final Four starting this Friday. His name could end up popping up in discussions regarding NBA free agency this summer, as long as a new collective bargaining agreement is signed between the players union and the NBA owners of course. We will keep you posted of course. For our North American visitors, The Final Four will be broadcasted on NBATV starting at 9:10 AM EDT. The Finals will be broadcasted on May 8th at 8:40 AM EDT.

Check out the official site, Euroleague.net for more information on the upcoming Final Four.

Τα τελευταια 30 δευτερολεπτα του σημερινου ματς ειναι οι δυνατοτητες του ΔΔ σε μικρογραφια.

Ολοι προσεξαν το τριποντο της ισοφαρισης και την ασσιστ της νικης, αλλα ελαχιστοι προσεξανε μια φαση πριν
τον ΔΔ να μαρκαρει τον πριντεζη στο λοου ποστ, να τον ποσταρει το αντιπαλο 4αρι σε καθαρι μις ματς και ο ΔΔ οχι μονο να μην τρωει καλαθι αλλα να κλεβει και τη μπαλα.

Εκπληκτικη αμυνα, εκπληκτικο σουτ, ψυχρο αιμα, απιστευτη πασα και μπασκετικο IQ. Αυτος ειναι ο ΔΔ , ισως ο μεγαλυτερος ευρωπαιος παιχτης στην ευρωλιγκα στη μετα μποντιρογκα εποχη.

Anticipating a milestone in Munich

Dimitris Diamantidis - Panathinaikos Athens - EB13With its fine Turkish Airlines Euroleague debut last season and the promise of better things to come, it's easy to forget as Panathinaikos Athens visits Munich for tonight's Game of the Week that FC Bayern is a newcomer to Europe's basketball elite. Although it once thrived there, high-level basketball had disappeared for decades from Munich until a recent revival, making its German League title last spring the first for Bayern in almost 60 years, since 1955.

There are many reasons that a world-famous club like FC Bayern was attracted to the basketball offered in the Turkish Airlines Euroleague, and one was no doubt to become part of a tradition offered by games like tonight's, when the fans in Munich may become witnesses to a milestone that will help define one of the Euroleague's most remarkable players ever in his first visit to their city.

Few people anywhere had registered the potential of Panathinaikos Athens guard Dimitris Diamantidis when he first stepped on a Euroleague court 10 years ago. He played exactly one international tournament for Greece at the youth level, in 2000, and had modest roles at the 2003 EuroBasket and 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, where he averaged 4.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 2.5 assists.

What Diamantidis has accomplished since that first Euroleague game on November 3, 2004, when he was already 24 years old, is nothing short of amazing. He and the Greens won three Euroleague titles between 2007 and 2011, with Diamantidis as Final Four MVP in the first and last, when he was also voted the Euroleague's full-season MVP. He also has been chosen to the all-Euroleague First Team four times by fans and media, and won the Best Defender Trophy six times in votes by the competition's head coaches.

Last season, Diamantidis set the Euroleague's career assist mark by breaking the old one of 978 belonging to another Greek legend, Theo Papaloukas. Should he dish eight tonight, he will become the first Euroleague player ever to reach 1,000 assists.

Although Diamantidis has dominated at both ends of the court as no other Euroleague player of his generation, the imminent milestone of 1,000 assists - whether he achieves it tonight or in the coming weeks - is an appropriate moment for considering the vast impact he has had on 21st century basketball.

There is no denying his superstar status, neither at the club level nor the international one. His three-point game-winner on the buzzer in the quarterfinals propelled Greece to the 2005 EuroBasket gold medal. That led to silver the following summer, when Diamantidis's near-perfect 39 minutes knocked the USA from the 2006 World Championships semifinals - the last such upset of the Americans in international play.

By his clear leading role in so much success, Diamantidis has helped redefine what it means to be a superstar. Although he can and does score - in fact, he has made the seventh-most three-pointers in the Euroleague this century - Diamantidis has averaged only 9.3 points over his first 10 Euroleague season. Scoring, in other words, does not define him the way it has most basketball superstars to date.

Instead, by dishing assists better than anyone at one end of the court, defending better than everyone at the other and rebounding like no other guard at both, Diamantidis has made his all-around game, and by extension that of other players, much more appreciated than ever before.

Diamantidis had already broken the steals record held by Papaloukas. It's safe to say that with 389 steals and counting and no active player under 33 years old within 200 of him, no one will break that record for a long, long time. Steals are by nature hard to see, however, the product of sleight of hand, a flick of the wrist. Few of them make the highlights. Same with rebounds, where his 850 to date are hundreds more than the nearest other guard or any player shorter than 2 meters.

Assists, on the other hand, are what make evident that even if he never needed to be a double-digit scorer, Diamantidis has had as much impact as almost anyone on offense, too. If you factor in just two points for every assist - as it's not recorded how many led to three-pointers - and add those to career points, it's clear that Diamantidis is second only to the Euroleague's all-time leading scorer, Juan Carlos Navarro of FC Barcelona, in total offense generated this century. And that is despite Diamantidis playing three fewer seasons than Navarro.

It is worth noting, too, that Diamantidis gets better at assist-making as he gets older. All of the 15 games in which he made 9 or more assists have come after Diamantidis turned 30 at the start of the decade. So have all of his 10 games with 8 or more assists on the road. Another of those tonight will give him a mark that young players will be trying to match well into the future.

So to the fans of Munich, root for your team, of course, tonight. But appreciate the maestro who comes to visit you for the first time. The privilege of witnessing one of the best ever make history in your house may be yours.

POSTED BY FRANK LAWLOR, EUROLEAGUE.NET
DATE: Thursday, October 23, 2014