Steve Kerr says Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, Klay Thompson will sit tomorrow at San Antonio.

Chris Haynes, ESPN Staff Writer

Steve Kerr says Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, Andre Iguodala, Klay Thompson will sit tomorrow at San Antonio.

Chris Haynes, ESPN Staff Writer


Σαν προσπάθεια αφύπνισης? To χάλι το μαύρο οι Warriors, αλλά αύριο με Kawhi εκτός και τους Spurs να ψιλοσέρνονται και αυτοί ίσως ήταν καλή ευκαιρία να χτυπήσουν το παιχνίδι.

Ο Kerr κάνει Popovich στον Popovich! Είναι και nationally televised λογικά, ο Silver θα τραβάει τα αυτιά του...

Σχετικά με το rest θεωρώ ότι και οι δύο head coach γνωρίζουν ότι έχεις περισσότερες πιθανότητες να πάρεις περισσότερα παιχνίδια με άλλους αντιπάλους, παρά αν πας να χτυπήσεις με full δυνάμεις ένα match, που ακόμα και αν είσαι πλήρης, οι πιθανότητες να το χάσεις/κερδίσεις είναι 50%. Είναι short to mid-term απόφαση με βάθος φυσικά το καλύτερο ρεκόρ στη λήξη.
Ο Kerr κι εγώ πιστεύω ότι το match το είχε χαμένο, έτσι κι αλλιώς έτσι όπως παίζουν οι Warriors. Το ρίσκο είναι στον Popovich πλέον ως απόφαση να κρίνει με ποιο υλικό θεωρεί ότι μπορεί να νικήσει τους εναπομείναντες Warriors και επομένως ποιούς θα ξεκουράσει. Γιατί ό,τι και να είναι, είναι μια νίκη, που το San Antonio τη χρειάζεται περισσότερο από τους δύο.

Εκτός και ο Aldridge, με πρόβλημα στην καρδιά και μάλιστα άγνωστο πότε θα ολοκληρωθούν μια σειρά εξετάσεων και τι θα δείξει το τελικό πόρισμα, με ότι αυτό συνεπάγεται για την συνέχεια.
Ήταν πολύ καλή ευκαιρία να το χτυπήσουν το ματς σήμερα οι Warriors. Ποτέ δεν είναι αργά βέβαια και με αυτά που έχουμε δει φέτος, δεν θα μου φανεί παράξενο να ανακαλέσουν το resting και να παίξουν κανονικά.

Εννοεις να μπουν σε Cavaliers mode;

Γιαυτό η regular έχει χάσει την αξία της.

Δεν φταίνε οι ομάδες γι αυτό. Οι ομάδες καλά κάνουν και ξεκουράζουν-προστατεύουν παίκτες απαραίτητους στα playoffs. Αν το πρόγραμμα δεν ήταν τόσο δύσκολο με συνεχόμενα παιχνίδια δεν θα γινόταν αυτό και ίσως να είχαμε και λιγότερους τραυματισμούς. Αλήθεια δεν γίνεται να ξεκινάει πιο νωρίς η σεζόν ή πιο αργά τα playoffs για να λυθεί αυτό;

Ήταν πολύ καλή ευκαιρία να το χτυπήσουν το ματς σήμερα οι Warriors. Ποτέ δεν είναι αργά βέβαια και με αυτά που έχουμε δει φέτος, δεν θα μου φανεί παράξενο να ανακαλέσουν το resting και να παίξουν κανονικά.

Δεν φταίνε οι ομάδες γι αυτό. Οι ομάδες καλά κάνουν και ξεκουράζουν-προστατεύουν παίκτες απαραίτητους στα playoffs. Αν το πρόγραμμα δεν ήταν τόσο δύσκολο με συνεχόμενα παιχνίδια δεν θα γινόταν αυτό και ίσως να είχαμε και λιγότερους τραυματισμούς. Αλήθεια δεν γίνεται να ξεκινάει πιο νωρίς η σεζόν ή πιο αργά τα playoffs για να λυθεί αυτό;

Για σημερα οι warriors ξεκουραζουν αλλα και οι spurs θα παιξουν χωρις kawhi,aldridge(ο οποιος δεν ξερουν τι εχει,μπορει να βγει απο υποθεση μιας εβδομαδας μεχρι περιπτωση bosh)

Hoiberg calls them the "Zipper Brothers" — a small and tight-knit group of players who have overcome serious heart ailments to continue playing at the highest level of a game that tests an athlete's heart as much as any does. Hoiberg cut his NBA career short after having open-heart surgery — and getting the zipper-like scar on his chest that birthed the nickname — to address an enlarged aortic root in 2005. Thomas and Chris Wilcox were able to play after their own surgeries and Turiaf, Green and Phoenix Suns forward Channing Frye all missed a year while recovering but are still playing to this day. Chuck Hayes never needed surgery, but a heart abnormality found during a routine screening in 2011 did require significant testing before he was cleared to continue playing with Toronto.

Δεν ξέρω για πιο λόγο βέβαια, αλλά υποτιμήσαμε και τις απουσίες Parker & Murray.

Αν και είναι εντελώς οφ-τόπικ, μήπως σιγά σιγά να πάψει να θεωρείται ταμπού η ελάττωση των παιχνιδιών σε κάτω από 82?

Tom Haberstroh
ESPN Staff Writer

Over the years, Doc Rivers has spent hours agonizing about whether to rest his stars. As a former All-Star who played 13 years in the NBA during the 1980s and 1990s, the notion of a healthy scratch just never occurred to him as a player. Taking games off? Preposterous.

"I wanted to play 48 minutes a night," River says. "I was pissed when [Rivers' former coach Mike] Fratello took me out." But after coaching for almost two decades, he has reversed course on his thinking. Why? The scientific evidence began to pile up. Scientist after scientist repeated the same message: The NBA schedule does not provide adequate rest for the body to recover. The science just didn't agree with the old way of thinking. Before a game against the Charlotte Hornets recently, Rivers spoke up about the rest and recovery issue, likening it to the scientific acceptance of climate change.

"I know that I'm not that smart," Rivers says. "Smarter people tell me there's a better way. I'm dumb enough to listen. That's the way I look at it. There are too many people that are telling you that [resting players] is good," Rivers said. "It's like global warming. I'm just saying, there are a lot of scientists that believe in global warming."

Rivers understands that this makes him different than most former players in TV studios and front offices. Hornets coach Steve Clifford hates bringing it up with team owner Michael Jordan and his assistant coach Patrick Ewing. Rivers has tried talking some sense to former greats and has since given up.

"You can't talk to them," Rivers said. "You really can't. I don't talk to any of the ex-players about rest because they kill me. They don't want to hear it. That's a fact. They don't want to hear that stuff."

But Rivers points out that most of the critics are too far away to see what's happening in the locker room. They are not with these athletes every day and they don't hear what the doctors tell him about their player's health and injury risks that they face in today's stretchy game. Coaches around the league have seen the recent study that shows a 3.5 times greater chance of in-game injury if a player plays a road back-to-back compared to one at home.

Reminder: Rivers got his schooling at Popovich University. His final NBA season as a player was with the Spurs organization when Gregg Popovich was the general manager. Rivers' first post-playing gig was as part of the Spurs' broadcast team. Over the years, Rivers has spoken with reverence for the longest-tenured coach in the game.

And it's no coincidence that Popovich was the NBA's pioneer on resting stars in the name of injury prevention. This past summer, Rivers hired a host of sports science and performance gurus to help keep his stars healthy for the long term. And one of their recommendations was to rest stars when recovery wasn't possible. This season, Rivers began resting players as early as November.

But Rivers and Popovich aren't alone in this thinking. Another proud member of the Popovich tree?

Steve Kerr, the guy who announced Friday night that he'd rest his stars during Saturday's nationally-televised marquee matchup between the Warriors and Spurs (8:30 p.m. ET, ABC).

Kerr walked into his hotel room in San Antonio this morning just in time to see the clock flip to 3 a.m. The weight of the decision he made hours before in Minnesota was acutely felt as the bus pulled into the hotel lot. There waiting were dozens of fans seeking autographs from Warriors players.

Kerr and the Warriors staff had been dreading this stretch of the schedule for months. This summer, sources say, Warriors brass put their heads together and brainstormed how to best navigate the brutal schedule that had them play eight games in eight different cities in just 13 days time -- including two cross-country flights and 11,000 total miles covered.

The Warriors even considered not sending all of their players to Oakland for a nationally-televised game against the Boston Celtics and instead send them directly from Atlanta to Minnesota for the back-to-back against the Timberwolves and Spurs. But ultimately they decided to travel for every game and see how the players felt. "What we couldn't have anticipated was KD's injury," Kerr told ESPN.com on Saturday morning, "which is playing a major role in this."

This, Kerr says, is one of the hardest coaching calls he's made. Just before midnight on Friday night, the reigning Coach of the Year announced that he would rest Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Andre Iguodala for the nationally-televised game against its West foe. Three All-Stars and the 2015 NBA Finals MVP would be sitting in addition to All-Star Kawhi Leonard, who has entered the concussion protocol after a blow to the head in Thursday's loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Though Kerr didn't make the final decision until after Friday's loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves, this situation has been brewing for quite some time. He typically only glances at the schedule, believing that it's 41 home games and 41 road games.

"This particular stretch was so outrageous," Kerr said," we had to look at it."

Gregg Popovich is one of the pioneers when it comes to resting stars; Steve Kerr has adopted a similar strategy. Even before Friday's tilt against the Timberwolves, Kerr had made it clear that this stretch was an outlier.

"It's truly insane," Kerr said on Thursday on 95.7 The Game. "This is the worst stretch of schedule that I've ever been a part of and I've been in the league since 1988. I've never seen anything like this, eight games in eight cities with 11,000 miles."

To recap the Warriors "journey," as Kerr calls it: The Warriors played Feb. 25 in Oakland; flew across the country for a game in Philadelphia on Feb. 27; flew overnight to Washington DC for a back-to-back on Feb. 28; jetted to Chicago for a Mar. 2 game; hopped on a flight back to the East Coast for a game at Madison Square garden on Mar. 5; flew down to Atlanta for a back-to-back on Mar. 6; jetted across the country to host the Celtics in Oakland before embarking on another back-to-back in Minnesota and San Antonio. Saturday's game will be the Warriors' fifth game in seven days, the same long-dreaded stretch that Popovich faced in 2012 when he kept his stars home in San Antonio rather than send them to face the Miami Heat. To Popovich, it just didn't make sense to risk injury, even though it was a nationally-televised game.

This was a tipping point for the league. And it served as a backdrop when Kerr received troubling info from this training staff this past week. Before the Celtics game, Kerr saw SportVU data that suggested his players were slowing down, and injury risks may be climbing. So he made the call to rest Shaun Livingston on Friday and other stars on Saturday. Would Kerr have rested his stars today if Pop hadn't done so in 2012?

"That's a good question," Kerr said. "Popovich laid down the groundwork and made it acceptable and made it smart, even."

Not everyone thought it was smart. Then-commissioner David Stern fined the Spurs $250,000 for not properly alerting the league office about sitting its players "in a timely way" and called it "a disservice to the league and our fans."

But Adam Silver has resisted fining teams for similar decisions. Kerr applauds Silver for his openness to this difficult topic. The league has agreed to stretch the season seven to ten days in 2017-18 and cut down on preseason games in addition to cutting down back-to-backs.

"What I really respect about Adam Silver is he's been really proactive about trying to deal with this issue. He's all ears when we talk to him."

Kerr personally brought up this March stretch in a conversation with Silver this summer. What was Silver's response? Kerr said Silver promised he's working on it and the league was "going to do everything we can to lighten the load."

"And I believe him."

Today's stars are resting more than ever. LeBron James, Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving have rested multiple times this season. Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins have joined the movement as well.

This is the NBA battleground, pitting big business against the science. And the math says this problem won't go away anytime soon.

"The next step is for the league to look at the national TV stuff," Kerr said. "And that's a tricky one."

Back in 2015, Kerr felt so bad about resting his stars during a game in Denver that he sent gift packages to bummed-out Warriors fans who emailed him complaining that they drove all the way to the Mile High City only to find out Curry and Thompson wouldn't play. That's a lot of gift packages he'll have to send these days.

"Now, everyone's going to call me up asking for free stuff," Kerr jokes now. Balancing fan interest and the health of the players is an increasingly difficult proposition. National TV games are at an all-time high, thanks in part to a billion-dollar deal with Disney and Turner. And it's a predicament that disproportionately faces good teams.

What Kerr didn't bring up is that the Warriors will travel more miles this season than any team in the NBA. All told, 54,736 miles this season. And that's the second season in a row that they've ranked first in miles traveled.

Part of that is pure geography. (It's hard to make quick trips out of the upper left corner of the United States; Portland ranks second.) But the other part is national TV games have to be squeezed into specific days of the week (Saturday and Sunday for ESPN/ABC, while Thursdays are TNT days).

The Warriors were scheduled an NBA-high 28 games on national TV this season and were tied for most last season at 25. Travel is closely linked to national TV games. If you compare total mileage and games on national TV this season, there is a noticeable correlation. Each of the top seven travel-heavy teams in total mileage have an above-average number of national TV games. (Teams like Golden State, Houston, LA Clippers and Oklahoma City). Of the bottom 10 teams in mileage, only Cleveland and Chicago have more TV games than the average team. But Cleveland and Chicago are located in the heart of America, where trips are naturally shorter.

This presents a no-win situation for coaches. Sit the stars, catch heat from fans. Play stars, have a greater likelihood of injury that could shorten a player's career and jeopardize team's title chances.

Kerr has to weigh the toll of travel and respecting the business side. It's not an easy call, but one that Kerr feels is part of the occupation.

"I just have to think about what my job is," Kerr said. "I can't worry about that stuff. I can be sensitive to it, but I can't prioritize it over my players' health. My priority is my players' health and being ready for the playoffs. That's my job." No one likes to see Durant in crutches, a result of suffering a knee injury on the second night of a back-to-back. Though the freak injury seemed accidental when Zaza Pachulia fell into his knee, what if Durant could have reacted quicker on a full night's sleep? We'll never know.

But these are the type of hypotheticals that weigh heavily on Kerr. He took great pride in playing every game for four straight seasons with the Chicago Bulls. But he also admits he and other players would grind it out without any scientific knowledge of how it might shorten their careers or lead to burnout. History backs up Kerr's long-term concern about stars trying to win multiple titles and leaving early. Larry Bird retired at 35 when his back gave out. At the peak of his career, Jordan took 18 months off to go play baseball. And he hung it up again at age 35 after another three-peat. Almost half the Miami Heat rotation retired after losing to the Spurs in 2014.

Can Stephen Curry avoid the burnout? Can LeBron James? Chris Paul? Kevin Durant? Blake Griffin? Copying Popovich's rest playbook makes a lot of sense to Kerr and Rivers.

The openness to resting stars has been regarded as a generational thing. But make no mistake, this is about listening to science and getting with the times.

"I don't know if it's generational," Rivers said. "I think that's the easy way of dismissing it. I think it's educational. We've evolved."

1. Οι 82 αγώνες είναι η πλατφόρμα, πάνω στην οποία δημιουργείται η βάση των εσόδων, αρχικά των τηλεοπτικών και λοιπών διαφημιστικών εσόδων, που στη συνέχεια παίρνει τη μορφή του CBA, των συμβολαίων και των παράπλευρων commercial συμβολαίων αθλητών. Ό,τι υπάρχει στρατηγικά, business plans, μελλοντικά έσοδα κλπ έχει στηθεί πάνω στην παραδοχή των 82. Είναι κάπως... αδιαπραγμάτευτο αυτή τη στιγμή

2. Είναι γεγονός ότι η Regular έχει χάσει την αίγλη της σήμερα και αυτό είναι συνέπεια της αλλαγής του ύφους του μπάσκετ που παίζεται σήμερα με αιτίες ό,τι έχει αναφερθεί τον τελευταίο καιρό και παλαιότερα και στο φόρουμ και αλλού φυσικά (π.χ. είσοδος και ενσωμάτωση "ευρωπαϊκών" στοιχείων στο επιθετικό παιχνίδι, αλλαγή σε κανονισμούς που προστατεύουν το επιθετικό παιχνίδι και αφαιρούν από το να παίζεται πιο δυναμική άμυνα, μεγαλύτερη συμμετοχή της επιστήμης του αθληιατρικού conditioning και ανάπτυξη των basketball analytics -βλ. διαχείριση λεπτών/ματς κοκ και άλλα πολλά...).

Είναι γεγονός ότι η Regular έχει χάσει την αίγλη της σήμερα και αυτό είναι συνέπεια της αλλαγής του ύφους του μπάσκετ που παίζεται σήμερα με αιτίες ό,τι έχει αναφερθεί τον τελευταίο καιρό και παλαιότερα και στο φόρουμ και αλλού φυσικά (π.χ. είσοδος και ενσωμάτωση "ευρωπαϊκών" στοιχείων στο επιθετικό παιχνίδι, αλλαγή σε κανονισμούς που προστατεύουν το επιθετικό παιχνίδι και αφαιρούν από το να παίζεται πιο δυναμική άμυνα, μεγαλύτερη συμμετοχή της επιστήμης του αθληιατρικού conditioning και ανάπτυξη των basketball analytics -βλ. διαχείριση λεπτών/ματς κοκ και άλλα πολλά...).

Συμφωνώ πλήρως με αυτά που αναφέρεις και θέλω να θίξω κάτι. Επειδή το θέμα με τους πολλούς αγώνες και την ξεκούραση των παιχτών συζητιέται έντονα τα τελευταία χρόνια, θα ήθελα να εκφράσω μια απορία: γιατί σε παλιότερες περιόδους δεν γινόταν καμία νύξη; Δε θυμάμαι παλιότερους σταρ να έπαιρναν ρεπό για να ξεκουραστούν. έχω διαβάσει τη δικαιολογία, ότι τώρα το παιχνίδι είναι πιο γρήγορο και αθλητικό και γι' αυτό παρατηρούνται συχνοί τραυματισμοί και πρέπει να μειωθούν οι αγώνες ή να αραιώσει το πρόγραμμα. Πάνω σ' αυτό υπάρχει ο αντίλογος, ότι όντως ισχύει αυτό αλλά από την άλλη το ξύλο που έπεφτε παλιότερα ήταν περισσότερο και σίγουρα υπήρχε καταπόνηση και τότε (διαφορετικού είδους). Μήπως τελικά οι σημερινοί παίχτες τα θέλουν όλα δικά τους;

Για το 1 είναι ένα σημαντικό κομμάτι το εμπορικό (το σημαντικότερο βεβαίως) αλλά να προσθέσουμε ότι είναι και τα....στατιστικά. Το NBA είναι αριθμολάγνο, περισσότεροι πόντοι ανά σεζόν, σερί, νίκες και ότι μπορούμε να φανταστούμε. Ο αριθμός των ομάδων άλλαζε αλλά ο αριθμός των αγώνων έμενε πάντα σταθερός και πιστεύω ότι ένας από τους λόγους είναι για να μπορεί να υπάρχει σύγκριση στα στατιστικά και στα ρεκόρ. Πλέον βέβαια τα πάντα κινούνται γύρω από τα έσοδα και τα τηλεοπτικά.

Δε θυμάμαι παλιότερους σταρ να έπαιρναν ρεπό για να ξεκουραστούν. έχω διαβάσει τη δικαιολογία, ότι τώρα το παιχνίδι είναι πιο γρήγορο και αθλητικό και γι' αυτό παρατηρούνται συχνοί τραυματισμοί και πρέπει να μειωθούν οι αγώνες ή να αραιώσει το πρόγραμμα. Πάνω σ' αυτό υπάρχει ο αντίλογος, ότι όντως ισχύει αυτό αλλά από την άλλη το ξύλο που έπεφτε παλιότερα ήταν περισσότερο και σίγουρα υπήρχε καταπόνηση και τότε (διαφορετικού είδους). Μήπως τελικά οι σημερινοί παίχτες τα θέλουν όλα δικά τους;

Δεν είναι δικαιολογία. Είναι γεγονός ότι οι τραυματισμοί -ειδικά στα playoffs- έχουν αυξηθεί. Ειδικά οι 2 τελευταίοι τελικοί -και άλλες σειρές βέβαια- έχουν επηρεαστεί-καθοριστεί σε μεγάλο βαθμό από αυτό.

Για τις παλιότερες δεκαετίες που λες, ο Στοκτον πχ σε 19 σεζόν έλειψε σε μόλις 22 παιχνίδια!!! Είναι αδιανόητο αυτό με τα σημερινά δεδομένα. Θέλω να πω ότι η καταπόνηση σήμερα είναι πολύ μεγαλύτερη από ότι 20 χρόνια πριν, και δεν φταίνε οι αθλητές σε αυτό.

Με λιγότερα παιχνίδια ή μεγαλύτερη σεζόν θα βλέπαμε σίγουρα καλύτερα παιχνίδια από πιο "φρέσκους" και υγιείς αθλητές.

Υπήρχαν και τα ρεπό και το skip στις προπονήσεις. Μάλιστα ο Bill Russell αναφέρει μια σκηνή όταν ένας rooky έκανε θέμα σχετικά με το ότι δεν κατέβαινε στις προπονήσεις ο Russ, με τον Auerbach να "τον βάζει στη θέση του"...
Αλλά το physical play των 80ς δε νομίζω ότι μπορεί να συγκριθεί ως συνολική καταπόνηση με αυτή που βλέπουμε σήμερα και προέρχεται από την εξάντληση των ορίων των αθλητών σε συνδυασμό με το εξοντωτικό πρόγραμμα.

Super ολοκληρωμένη άποψη του Mike, δεν ξέρω αν βγαίνουν οι ημερομηνίες που προκύπτουν στο τέλος αλλά κάτι πρέπει να γίνεται.

In this way, Grover maintains that reducing the minutes (say, playing 20 minutes instead of 36 and active resting) is actually better than sitting out games and then going out for dinner or something.
Considering Grover's work with MJ, Kobe, Wade and other top notch athletes, I tend to thrust his judgment. He's likely the best at his job."[/i] Πηγή : Slam

Το αναφέρω εδώ μιας και επικαλείται δηλώσεις ενός εκ των κορυφαίων γυμναστών.

Επίσης τώρα ξεκινούν οι παίκτες νωρίτερα την επαγγελματική καριέρα και συνεπώς την μεγαλύτερη καταπόνηση τους.
Κάπου είχα διαβάσει ότι οι σημερινοί αθλητές έχουν κάτι κιλά μεγαλύτερη μυϊκή μάζα σε σχέση με το παρελθόν, δεν ξέρω αν αυτό παίζει και κάποιο ρόλο στην επιβάρυνση θετικό (λόγω αυξημένης αντοχής) ή αρνητικό (γιατί περισσότερα κιλά σημαίνει μεγαλύτερα φορτία). Σκέψεις κάνω.

Μου αρεσε η ιδεα που περιεγραψε ο τυπος στο βιντεο σαν λυση. Βεβαια απ την αλλη θα υπηρχε οντως συγκρουση προγραμματος με τις διοργανωσεις της FIBA και με ολο και περισσοτερους ξενους να παιζουν στο ΝΒΑ, αυτο θα εκανε μεγαλη ζημια στις διεθνεις διοργανωσεις. Κι αυτες λοιπον θα επρεπε να πανε λιγο πιο μπροστα χρονικα.
Απο κει και περα, επειδη και με το αραιοτερο προγραμμα κανεις δεν μπορει να εμποδισει τις ομαδες να ξεκουρασουν και παλι παιχτες, δε θα ημουν αντιθετος και σε καποια "προληπτικα μετρα" κι απ την πλευρα του πρωταθληματος. Δηλαδη, να ανοιξουμε οσο γινεται το προγραμμα, να εξαφανισουμε, αν ειναι δυνατον τα back to back, αλλα να βαλουμε κι ενα οριο στην απουσια παιχτων χωρις τοποθετηση στην injured list. Αν αυτο ξεπεραστει, ο παιχτης να πρεπει να χασει αντιστοιχα παιχνιδια πλει οφ(ενα για καθε ματς ξεκουρασης πανω απο το οριο και οχι ολα στον πρωτο γυρο, αλλα ενα για καθε γυρο με επιλογη απο τη λιγκα).
Θεωρητικα βεβαια μπορει ενας προπονητης να βαλει εναν παιχτη για 3' και να μη θεωρηθει ξεκουραση. Απλα σε αυτη την περιπτωση δε θα αποφυγει το ταξιδι, αρα και αρκετη απο την κουραση. Για καποιους μπορει να παιξει ρολο και οτι με μικρη συμμετοχη θα αλλοιωσουν τα στατιστικα τους.

Πως μπορει να καθοριστει απο την λιγκα η αδικαιολογητη απουσια?Οτι δηλαδη το dnp δεν ειναι για αγωνιστικους λογους
Ολοι ξερουμε οτι ο λεμπρον πχ δεν μενει εκτος για αγωνιστικους λογους ομως νομικα πως το στοιχειοθετεις?
Ακομα και να βρεις τροπο κανει δεν μπορει να εμποδισει την ομαδα να τους δηλωνουν στην injured list για ψιλοπραγματα πχ πονος στην μεση που ακομα και αν τους εξετασει ανεξαρτητος γιατρος δεν φαινεται κατι

Και αν ο (κάθε) Λεμπρόν έφαγε πάγκο γιατί αντιμίλησε στον προπονητή, θα τον αναγκάσουμε να τον βάλει να παίξει;

NBA commissioner Adam Silver has called the practice of teams resting marquee players "an extremely significant issue for our league" in a memo sent to team owners Monday and obtained ‎by ESPN.

In the memo, Silver informed teams that the issue will be a prime topic of discussion at the next NBA Board of Governors meeting April 6 in New York and warned of ‎"significant penalties" for teams that don't abide by the league's standing rules for providing ‎"notice to the league office, their opponent, and the media immediately upon a determination that a player will not participate in a game due to rest."

A day after Cavs coach Tyronn Lue rested the Big Three in a nationally televised game against the Clippers, LeBron James scoffed at the idea that player rest is hurting the league's appeal.
He states that it is unacceptable for owners to be uninvolved or defer decision-making on this topic to others in their organizations, who may not have the same awareness of the impact these decisions can have on "fans and business partners," the reputation of the league and "perception of our game."

Silver also warns that teams will suffer "significant penalties" if they don't provide adequate notice when it's decided that a player will not play due to rest. There are league rules that govern when and how teams must notify the league office, their opponent and the media about such decisions.

After the Cavaliers decided to rest their Big Three of LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love in a 108-78 loss to the Clippers, Cleveland general manager David Griffin said the league office called him shortly after the team announced its decision Saturday.

But the GM also said it isn't his job to appease the league and its television partners (which include ESPN).

"Yeah, and they're paying me to win a championship," he told ESPN. "I'm not overly concerned about the perception of it. We literally had one guy rest tonight, and everybody else was reasonably injured, so I don't feel like we did anything terribly egregious."

On Monday, ESPN released a statement about teams resting their star players during nationally televised games.

"As always, our aim is to serve NBA fans with the best matchups involving the league's top stars and we share the fans' disappointment. We understand this is a complex issue and we're working closely with the NBA to best address it going forward from a media partnership standpoint," the statement said.

It was the second consecutive week a team that had been to the Finals rested multiple star players in the nationally televised game on ABC. A week earlier, the Warriors sat Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green and Andre Iguodala for their Western Conference showdown against the Spurs.

Golden State coach Steve Kerr told ESPN's Tom Haberstroh that he made his decision as a way to navigate the team's stretch of eight games in eight different cities in just 13 days -- including two cross-country flights and 11,000 total miles covered.

Underlying Kerr's frustration was the fact that six of those eight games were nationally televised, meaning some of the dates could have been affected by the needs of broadcast partners.

Griffin said the Cavs' situation was different from that of the Warriors, who rested healthy players against the Spurs.

"It was nothing like the last time that happened," he told ESPN, referring to last weekend. "Those were three healthy dudes that rested. That's not what happened tonight. Yeah, it sucks from a timing perspective. I feel bad for the league. I really do. I feel bad for the league, but it is what it is for us, from an injury standpoint. As you know, we haven't had a team together for more than a week at a time all year."

When asked if ABC will have to consider not scheduling these marquee games if the stars keep sitting, Cavaliers coach Ty Lue acknowledged feeling bad about the situation. "I know," he said. "Sorry, ABC. This wasn't intentional. It's serious. So no need to have setbacks to play one game on national TV. We're being smart about it."

Silver had said in February that reducing the preseason and starting the regular season earlier was implemented into the new collective bargaining agreement to address the issue of resting players and help reduce injuries.

"Yes, that's why we're adding the extra week to the season," Silver said during his press conference at the All-Star Game. "We've reduced the number of games we'll play in the preseason and added a full week to the regular season... That extra week in our schedule will enable us to cut down on the back-to-backs, cut down on the number of times that our teams are obligated to play four games in five nights, and it will enable the coaches to provide additional rest for their players."

"So we do hope it will cut down on the resting of players in marquee games," Silver added. "I do recognize, though, that there isn't an easy solution to that problem, and I'm sympathetic to fans who turn out -- whether they buy tickets to games or watching games on television and don't see their favorite player on the floor. But we also have to be realistic that the science has gotten to the point where there is that direct correlation that we're aware of between fatigue and injuries. And as tough as it is on our fans to miss one of their favorite players for a game, it's far better than having them get injured and be out for long periods of time. So we're always still looking to strike that right balance."

ESPN's Marc Stein and Ohm Youngmisuk contributed to this report.

NEW YORK -- Calling it the single most critical issue in the NBA at the moment, NBA commissioner Adam Silver said owners want teams to stop resting multiple players in nationally televised games and that players opt to rest more during home games.

"There is no more important issue in the league right now, it goes to the heart of what we do and the core of competition," Silver said after the NBA's Board of Governors meetings convened in Manhattan. "It is something that we will be spending a lot more time on."

Silver later added: "What we talked about among our owners was a sense of obligation to the game and what appropriate behavior is. And so what we concluded is if we could focus on these two issues, namely, to the extent [if] you're resting, resting at home and avoiding resting multiple starters, especially in marquee games, we could solve a large part of the problem."

Silver said owners discussed the "complex" issue of player rest at the Board of Governors meeting on Thursday and will continue to deliberate on the topic when the competition committee meets in the future.

Silver recently sent a memo to team owners, obtained by ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, stating how the league needs to address star players being rested in prime-time games and finding a balance between keeping players healthy and keeping fans and business partners happy.

Silver said there is no consideration right now for reducing the 82-game regular season. But he understands that not only does the NBA have to worry about contenders resting star players with the playoffs in mind but also rebuilding teams holding out players as they jockey for lottery draft pick spots.

"That was discussed as well," Silver said. "I would categorize that as a different kind of resting. On one hand, we have the type of resting midseason, marquee games, national TV games, teams that are clearly in the hunt and are resting for strategic purposes to advance in the season. And then a different kind of resting, where frankly teams are focused on rebuilding. I think that is also a serious issue for the league. [But] not a new issue for the league."

"Sometimes there are other opportunities to give other players on the roster additional minutes, but there is no question a certain amount of jockeying that is going on there as teams look to go into the draft," Silver added. "The larger subject of lottery and odds for the lottery, how so-called lottery picks are protected, in certain cases you have lottery picks one-through-three protected, I think that is something that we discussed at our board meeting and agreed we need to revisit it in a holistic way."

Next season, the NBA will add a week to the schedule to spread games out more. Silver is confident that the prospects of teams playing four games in five nights will almost be completely eliminated and that back-to-back slates will be reduced.

Silver has repeatedly said that he understands rest is needed for players and its correlation to the likelihood of injuries. But he also said that not all the science on rest is clear. "I have delved into this issue fairly intensively in the last month," Silver said. "The science is much less clear than I thought it would be, and there are different philosophies from different organizations.

"I don't think we are at the point at all where we can see this is a clear science that if a player plays 25 games and rests for three days, that decreases the likelihood of an injury by 26 percent. Sometimes there is a sense that maybe the science is at that point. It's not, as far as we know."

The owners discussed the possibility of issuing guidelines to teams on players rest but nothing that would be an enforceable rule.

The NBA may look at the schedule with the players' association to also find more ways to spread games out. Silver also wants the NBA to do a "much better job of being much more specific of how exactly we categorize players who are sitting out which over time will help us with better data."

"I have enormous respect for our coaches and GMs who are doing everything they can to win, and I am particularly sympathetic to our players because my sense is our players take the brunt of it, but they are not the ones choosing to rest," Silver said. "... It is not a function necessarily of owners calling coaches and saying I am now going to dictate to you or micromanage how you coach the team or how you choose minutes for a particular player, but these need to be organizational decisions where there is a fair balance between the competitive issues and very real business issues on the other hand."

"It's a complex issue," Silver added. "It doesn't mean we will resolve it ... we can't take the game for granted and that the game is bigger than any team or any one person in the room and that we should never take our fans for granted. We have to work through it.

Δεν μπορώ να ξέρω πως το βλέπουν οι φίλαθλοι εκεί στην Αμερική αλλά με την δική μου ματιά όπου το μπάσκετ δεν είναι μόνο οι σούπερσταρ και το θέαμα μεγαλύτερο πρόβλημα θεωρώ την αλλοίωση παιχνιδιού που κάνουν οι ομάδες που θέλουν να πέσουν όσο χαμηλότερα μπορούν παρά όσοι ξεκουράζουν παίκτες για να βγει η σεζόν.